Welcome back to another episode of Schaefer's market mashup. I am thrilled to bring you another collaboration with Cebo Global

Markets featuring not one but two recurring guests. Please welcome back Rob Hawking, the head of derivative strategy at Cebo.

The last time we talked, you were part of our popular top five mistakes options

traders make episode. So have you been since then?

Yeah, wonderful. Thanks. Thanks for the invite back. It's excited to be here and go through a little more of the product design and

you know, introduction of product stuff that we're doing here at Cebo Hizko around.

Great.

And joining him is Michael Izaki, VP of Derivative Strategy.

Good to have you back, Michael. You were last heard from when we did

Minnivix futures, if I recall. That's right. Yell, thanks for having us in here to talk about this exciting new product and it's definitely great to be here again.

Cool and how I would be you know not a good host if I say how is Chicago I see you guys are together.

Yeah, nice today temperature dropped a little bit but you know you can tell fall is in the air but but nice and sunny. Good. Good.

Yeah, same here.

So, you know, a nice Midwest day for both of us.

So we're here to talk about some exciting new developments over at Cebo in the impact it will have on retail options traders.

And I'll let you guys take it away from the jump, but what is this Nanos I keep hearing about?

Give me the five Ws, you know who, what, where, when, and why.

They're excited to be here to talk today about this.

You know, everyone has seen the retail explosion over the past 18 months. You know options trading by retail

investors is up roughly, call it four times over the past five years and this, I always love the stat or quote

that came out of the OCC recently that said

almost 39 million options contracts

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