And the Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the Schaefer's market mashup.

I'm a man of my word as I have said numerous times and I've brought two more esteemed guests with me.

Today I'm joined by Graham Day, Vice President of Product and Research for Innovator EDFs, and Samet Roy, E.T.F. analyst for E.F.com.

Gentlemen, welcome.

Thanks for having us, Patrick.

Great to be here.

Awesome, good to hear.

You guys might be my first guests that aren't from Chicago or currently living in Chicago

because usually I've got Cebo guests.

Are you the first non-Chicago people? because usually I've got Cebo guests.

Are you the first non-Chicago people here?

Yeah, I mean, I'm in San Francisco all the way out on the west coast.

So, you know, quite a ways away from Chicago. Wow.

Yeah, Patrick, I'm actually in kind of in your backyard.

We're in Wheaton, Illinois, so just about a 40 minute train ride outside of the city.

So we'll say we're not in Chicago if that

if that helps you out. Oh no that's I'm in Cincinnati right now really don't like

that Wheaton news in Division 3 soccer. So it stings a little bit there, but you know what, I won't

hold it against you. So today we're going to talk about EDFs in the trends and trades around them. Exchange

Traded Fund, which is what it stands for. They are growing in popularity at a

rapid rate and CMO Global Markets is the listing exchange for more than 450

exchange traded products from over 55 unique issuers globally. Since 2014, Cebo's listing's business has grown to

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