SchadenFriday Plus: Feelin’ Nuzzi
What Next
Slate Podcasts
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 December 2025
⏱️ 4 minutes
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Summary
Olivia Nuzzi’s book, American Canto, is out. Somehow it discloses almost nothing and also way, way too much.
Guest: Scaachi Koul, Slate senior writer.
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| 0:00.0 | Happy Friday Slatesters. |
| 0:03.0 | Welcome back to another edition of Shoutin Friday. |
| 0:06.2 | These are our Slate Plus exclusive conversations. |
| 0:10.9 | For when we need to indulge in our worst instincts, maybe. |
| 0:15.6 | Like need a little relief from the news, which I definitely needed this week. |
| 0:20.0 | Because, okay, let's just talk about |
| 0:21.9 | what happened this week in the real world. On Tuesday, President Trump went on a monstrously |
| 0:28.6 | racist rant, even by his standards, which are low. It was about Somali Americans, quite |
| 0:35.0 | literally saying that immigrants from Somalia are garbage and we don't need that in our country. |
| 0:41.3 | Deep breath. |
| 0:42.8 | The administration also warned 22 states in the District of Columbia that they were going to withhold food aid if those states refused to hand over vast amounts of data on the people receiving that money, |
| 0:56.9 | including their immigration statuses. |
| 0:59.1 | Okay, so I hear these headlines and I need a break. |
| 1:02.7 | Like, we didn't even cover these things on our show. |
| 1:05.0 | And yet, here we are in hell. |
| 1:09.6 | Anyway, so here we are, shout in Friday. And you know the drill by now. |
| 1:13.6 | This is all about talking about stuff that gives us the like smiling purple devil emoji energy. |
| 1:18.9 | And I have brought one of my favorite people here to do this with me. Sachi Cole, Slate Culture |
| 1:22.8 | writer, author of Sucker Punch, a great book you should immediately go get, like right now. |
| 1:29.3 | Sachi, hi. |
| 1:30.5 | I hear we're being mean. |
| 1:34.6 | You're like, did my ears tingle? |
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