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Woman's Hour

Scarlett Moffatt, Patricia Devlin, Gender and AI

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

There's to be an inquiry into the Covid pandemic. It will start in Spring next year. We speak to one of the women who's been pushing for it, but still thinking it's starting too late. Her name is Jean Adamson from the Covid-19 Bereaved families For Justice.

Scarlett Moffatt, famous for Gogglebox and winning I'm A Celebrity ... has just become an ambassador for The Samaritans. She talks to Woman's Hour about how reality television has affected her mental health, and exchanges experiences with Montana Brown who appeared on Love Island. One of the things they talk about is whether reality TV does enough to support young women who choose to go on these shows.

Patricia Devlin is a crime journalist in Northern Ireland. She specialises in investigating paramilitary criminal activity. Because of her work, Patricia has suffered continuous threats to her life but now her baby son has been targeted for the second time. She tells us how she's coping and how she wants the PSNI to take these threats more seriously.

Artificial intelligence is everywhere. AI is playing a part in how we all work, live and play. But there are worries that because AI algorithms are created from the data we give it, biases in society will be replicated and even amplified by it in the future. Both the The European Union and the UK government are working on strategies to address this. Emma talks to the tech entrepreneur Tabitha Goldstaub who Chairs the UK's AI Council and to Carly Kind the Director of the Ada Lovelace Institute.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts

0:05.2

Hello, I'm Emma Barnett and welcome to Women's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:10.0

Good morning. In a week where the government has laid out plans to protect people online,

0:14.5

in the online safety bill announced in the Queen's speech,

0:17.3

today we're going to hear from some of the women at the coalface of some of the abuse

0:21.2

this bill seeks to address. Two years in the making under the draft bill,

0:25.2

social media firms will have to remove harmful content quickly

0:28.9

or potentially face multi-billion-pound fines. It has its critics on both sides.

0:34.3

But my first two guests this morning, reality TV stars Scarlet Moffat and Montana Brown,

0:39.2

both have plenty of first-time experiences of this and more to share,

0:43.2

as does the award-winning journalist Patricia Devlin, who's returning to the programme today

0:47.3

with a worrying update. But what I want to get to the heart of with you is your response

0:53.2

to abuse online, because it isn't just high-profile people with

0:57.0

followings that are now in receipt of abuse, cruel remarks, threats.

1:00.8

The poison has spread and it affects women in very specific ways.

1:05.8

A report from UNESCO on threats against female journalists last week, I thought

1:09.6

put it very well when it said online violence against women, journalists in this case,

1:14.0

is designed to belittle, humiliate and shame, induce fear, silence and retreat.

1:19.5

And it warned, and this is the bigger loss potentially, that women are being frozen out

1:24.4

of public debate, or certainly one of the large squares of public debate.

1:28.4

This is your square, this is your microphone. How have you responded when you have received

1:33.6

threats, abuse, horrible remarks? It is people from all backgrounds now that is doling it out,

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