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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Scares, Stockpiles and Smart Planning

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Tariffs, fear, and stockpiling—oh my! Don and Tom break down how consumer sentiment, not just consumer spending, is shifting dramatically under the weight of tariff uncertainty. They connect behavioral shifts—like Googling “recession” and panic-buying tires—to bigger economic signals and what it all means for investors. From the role of emergency savings to the misleading pitch of indexed annuities, they dismantle hype and stress the importance of sticking to a real plan. They also field smart questions on Roth conversions, muni bonds, and whether now is the time to invest that idle cash. Oh, and don’t worry: most of our toilet paper is made right here in the good ol’ USA! 0:11 Consumers drive the economy—and investment returns0:47 Sentiment is slipping fast, and it could trigger a slowdown2:05 “Recession” and “depression” searches spike amid uncertainty3:11 Tariffs shift what we buy: food in, luxury out4:24 What investors should do now: boost emergency savings7:22 Auto stockpiling and tariff-fueled panic buying8:50 Prices rising, brand loyalty falling, and psychology shifting10:27 Volatility confuses perception—despite flat portfolio returns12:16 Emergency funds are real insurance without the gimmicks14:14 Spry 102-year-olds and the power of Bulgarian yogurt17:47 Best muni bond fund choice for high tax brackets: VTEB20:31 Can’t milk a Buckeye, but they might ward off arthritis22:52 Roth conversions: should you pay the tax now or wait?28:57 Indexed annuities: steak dinners, sales tricks, and the ugly truth34:16 Why the commissions are so high—and the returns so low37:55 Got cash on the sidelines? Here's what to do before investing39:27 Final advice: plan first, invest later, ignore the noise Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:35.5

We're talking real money.

0:37.9

Money and investing both boil down to one pretty simple thing.

0:48.2

Consumers.

0:50.0

Consumers are the ultimate drivers of most of the economy.

0:55.4

Sure, there are a few things in which consumers are not immediately involved.

1:02.3

Defense spending.

1:03.8

You know, not many of us go out and buy tanks or Stinger.

1:08.0

I'm more into planes, as you know.

1:09.8

But yours are all plastic. They won't fly very

1:12.2

far. And they won't do well in combat either. Consumer spending really does drive economic growth.

1:19.4

And economic growth drives the values of many, if not most investments. But the thing that really

1:26.7

drives it all is a thing called sentiment.

1:30.6

And that is how we feel about the situation and our ability to spend and consume and enjoy and do things.

1:45.2

And right now, with all of the confusion and uncertainty about tariffs, be they 10% or 150%, people are reacting to those things.

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