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🗓️ 22 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host, Ashley Flowers. And I'm Britt. And the story I have for you today isn't just one story, but it started that way for me with Sandra Birchmore, which we covered in our last episode. I was shocked and outraged how she was taken advantage of in the police explorer program. Because like, my God, surely parents have to believe that sending |
| 0:21.9 | their kids to learn from the police has to be the safest place for them. What a betrayal. |
| 0:27.3 | But then I began to wonder, was that the exception? Or was this just one example of a system |
| 0:34.0 | with deep-rooted problems that lets abuse thrive. |
| 0:38.3 | And just as I was asking myself this question, literally within like two weeks of |
| 0:42.4 | Sandra's story breaking, I saw this local news article. |
| 0:46.5 | It said, IMPD officer tied to teen suicide, ordered to write weekly journal in rare |
| 0:52.1 | sentence. |
| 0:53.3 | A teen who was part of the Indianapolis |
| 0:56.5 | Metropolitan Police Department's Explorer program. And as I dug into her story, |
| 1:03.4 | I realized that we were just scratching the surface of a much, much bigger problem, |
| 1:10.3 | because the more I looked, the more I found. |
| 1:13.4 | And me and our reporter Nina have spent months |
| 1:15.5 | uncovering a systemic issue within the program |
| 1:18.9 | that is required listening for everyone. |
| 1:21.9 | Crime junkie or not, this is an episode that must be shared |
| 1:24.7 | because you will not believe what has been happening right under |
| 1:29.1 | our noses for decades. For Mike Gatliff, time stopped on Monday, November 2, 2015, right around 4.41 p.m. |
| 2:11.3 | And now his life is split into before and after. Before, he was living out the most average day, went to work at the Indianapolis Police |
| 2:21.2 | Pawn Unit, came home to the house that he shared with his wife, Janice, their 18-year-old |
| 2:25.6 | daughter Heidi, and their 21-year-old son. |
| 2:28.1 | He'd just gotten out of his car and was bringing up some leaf bags from the yard when |
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