Scandal and cyber security in Westminster
Pod Save the UK
Pod Save the UK
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 11 April 2024
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Coco is back from holiday and the first order of business is for Nish to explain the Westminster “honeypot” scandal, which has seen the vice-chairman of the 1922 committee resign. But beyond a salacious story about MPs texting, what are the broader security issues this raises? Nish and Coco also take issue with Shadow Health Secretary Wes Streeting attacking “middle-class lefties” in a tabloid newspaper.
Special guest Shami Chakrabarti joins Nish and Coco to discuss human rights - what they are, why we need them, and how we need to define them in a future that’s powered by technology and AI. The Labour peer also gives her verdict on Keir Starmer’s leadership, Diane Abbott’s suspension, and responds to listener comments about the importance of voting. Plus she takes an unexpected detour into film criticism.
Nish laments the fall of a heroic shoe, and Coco aims a government department for the way it treats carers in her villain of the week.
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Baroness Shami Charkrabarti, human rights lawyer and author of Human Rights: The Case for the Defence’.
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Dr Luke Evans MP
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| 0:00.0 | Hi this is Pod Save the UK I'm Nishkamar and I'm Coco Khan. This week the honeypot |
| 0:15.2 | scandal that's been engulfing Westminster. Special guest shami track Rabati |
| 0:18.5 | tells us why we need human rights and we explain why Rishi Sunak has ruined shoes. |
| 0:26.0 | So Nish, I've been on holiday, so I've come back to learn that British MPs are extremely |
| 0:32.3 | horny. What is going on? |
| 0:34.1 | Okay, this is a quite complicated and at point extremely strange story. |
| 0:39.4 | On Thursday last week, the MP for Hazel Grove in Greater Manchester |
| 0:43.0 | William Ragg announced that two years ago he exchanged messages on a |
| 0:46.6 | dating app and the person he was speaking to started asking for the phone |
| 0:49.7 | numbers of other MPs. Worry about the messages and also the kind of content this person had from him, |
| 0:55.4 | RAG obliged. And since he went public with this, we've learned that several MPs, |
| 0:59.9 | parliamentary staffers and Westminster journalists subsequently received near identical messages. |
| 1:06.3 | Right, okay. So what was it like a fishing scam? Yes, effectively yes. |
| 1:11.6 | It was a fishing scam that unfortunately involved compromising photos of a |
| 1:19.2 | member of parliament I think that's absolutely as much as we need to say. |
| 1:23.0 | Okay and how many people have been... |
| 1:25.0 | So we're now up to 21 according to political. |
| 1:28.0 | And the whistle was first blown on this a month ago by Dr Luke Evans, |
| 1:32.0 | who's a conservative MP for Bosworth in |
| 1:33.7 | Leicestershire who took a slightly different tack to William Rag when he was |
| 1:37.4 | sent sexually explicit images as he explained in a video on his Facebook page. A month ago I |
| 1:42.0 | was a victim of cyber flashing and malicious communications and blew the |
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