Coming up on AARP The Perfect Scam, part one of our two-part episode.

When Publicist Plain House awards one of our major prizes and we award those throughout the year.

We contact our winners in person just as you see on the television commercials. Our prize patrol shows up with their

van with a big check, a bottle of champagne and flowers. If you're being asked to send money, pay taxes,

homeland security fee, customs fee, any amount to collect a prize, you know it's not real and it's certainly not from the real publisher's clearinghouse.

It was almost like cultish. It was like somebody had gotten into her brain.

She is now, you know, not going with her friends,

not trusting the people who love her.

She gave up, because she had a really strong well, amazingly strong energy well, and then she didn't.

Welcome back to AARP, The Perfect Scam Podcast, I'm Will Johnson, and I am back again for a fresh batch of

scams and frauds, all new shows with my co-host, the AARP Fraud Watch Network Ambassador

Frank Abbing.

Now, Frank, how are you you? Great good to be back.

Good to see you again. Yes. Our first round of shows I got to tell you after doing

those and having a few weeks a few months to hear feedback and hear from people and people who've been listening and family and friends.

I know a little bit about what it's like to be Frank Abagnale, just in the sense, a tiny miniscule amount that people come up to me and ask me, tell me about fraud a lot. the you get into a taxi and that's what you hear. Exactly and you know it's just amazing to me and I can see the popularity of the show simply

because so many people were scammed so many people believe they're being

scammed and most of the time they're right.

And they're looking for a resource to explain to them what's going on or how do I protect myself

from being scammed.

So I think there's a lot of a lot of people from all walks of life not just seniors

from all walks of life that want to know you know how do I protect myself from

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