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I suddenly made

almost $100,000.

I'm watching it happen right there in front of me,

on the screen.

And I'm going, is that how people get rich?

Yeah. And I'm going, is that how people get rich? Welcome to The Knife.

I'm Hannah Smith.

I'm Pasha Eaton. This week, we're speaking with Chancy Lewis, a retired school teacher in Colorado who, while grieving the loss of his wife, formed an unlikely friendship with a stranger. And soon he was pulled into a complex scheme.

But during our conversation, something unexpected happened. We began to realize that it might not be

over. And actually, there might be another scheme already in motion. This was happening as Pasha and I were

wrapping up the interview. And then we basically attempted to intervene in real time.

Let's get into it.

Hi, Chancy.

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