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Scaling Up Good Schools

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🗓️ 21 December 2009

⏱️ 10 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, December 21st, 2009. I'm Caleb Brown.

0:06.0

There are costs to any firm that wants to get bigger and scaling up schools that work well

0:11.2

face the same challenges.

0:13.0

If the private sector can franchise many of its successes,

0:16.0

why don't public schools take similar pockets of excellence within them

0:20.0

and extend those benefits to more kids?

0:22.0

Andrew Coulson, director of the Cato Institute's Center for

0:24.8

Educational Freedom, says the incentives just aren't there.

0:28.5

There are troubles for any business that wants to expand or scale up its production to franchise or have many, many different operations.

0:40.0

Ray Crock, the genius that he was, his contribution, at least one of them, was the ability to design

0:49.6

the firm, the individual McDonald's stores, in such a way that you could have a competent manager

0:57.0

and have that expertise across all of your stores. And in schools, in public schools anyway, you would think that

1:08.6

that would be possible to do, but there are troubles for schools that want to take a successful experiment and

1:19.3

mass produce it.

1:20.3

What are those troubles?

1:21.3

Well, that's exactly true. It isn't that we lack examples of excellence in public schooling. The problem

1:29.3

is that the examples we have languish and often fade away completely.

1:35.2

The typical example of this is Jaime Escalante who was the fantastic calculus teacher

1:42.4

at a public high school in East LA in the 1970s and 80s.

1:46.6

They made a film about him called Stand and Deliver.

1:49.2

Incredible teacher at one point the number of Hispanic students who were taking and passing the

1:56.7

AP calculus test at his school was a huge portion of the total number of such students nationwide. That's how good his program was.

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