It was difficult for me in my first companies because I'm like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever as every business owner thinks and

Or as I became a partner in more companies, I realized that it's not about having the most control

It's about having the right team to make it happen.

You can have as many businesses as you want. If you want to own equity in a hundred companies, that's possible.

I've kind of reached the point where I'd much rather own 10% of 100 companies than 100% of one company.

All right guys you got Austin Zellin here I went on your show and now you're on my little

swap perfect I'm excited for it man yeah here I went on your show and now you're on my little swap.

Perfect.

I'm excited for it man.

Yeah, I was glad to have you on my show definitely.

Which side do you like better?

You know, I like both because on one side you get to kind of steer the conversation in whatever way you want it to go and then on the other side you get to share a little bit more about your background and your story and the things that you're working on.

I like to highlight the guests as much as possible on my show.

Yeah. So I think a little back and forth is cool. And you provide a very unique service. You come into businesses that are doing

two to five mill a year right and you help them scale. Yeah exactly so my

sweet spot is businesses that are stuck between two and five million dollars

could be for a variety of different reasons but really like entrepreneurs, I find that they're kind of like a hopeless romantic.

They have this idea, it's their baby, it's the only thing that they want to focus on and they

never want to give out any equity or anything like that and I experienced that myself

as well early on in business and so these people are so emotional about their

business that they sometimes forget the logical side of it and business is not

that difficult it's pretty simple actually but it's hard to implement if you can't

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