This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Wednesday, February 17th, 2016.

I'm Caleb Brown.

On Regulation and Criminal Justice Antonin and Scalia leaves a mixed legacy.

For criminal defendants, it's stronger than you might suspect,

and for regulatory agencies and their powers is more mixed than you might suspect.

The Cato Institutes Walter Olson and Tim Lynch discuss Scalia on regulation and criminal defense.

I'm going to quote here from Regulation magazine, but it was part of a debate between Richard Epstein and Antonin Scalia.

Scalia writes, here, I recall from the earliest days

of my political awareness Dwight Eisenhower's demonstrably

successful slogan that he was quote

a conservative in economic affairs but a liberal in human affairs. I am sure he meant it to

connote nothing more than more profound than he represented the best of both Republican and Democratic

tradition, but still that seems to me a particular way to put it, contrasting economic

affairs with human affairs, as though economics is a science developed for the benefit

of dogs or trees, something that has nothing to do with human beings with their welfare aspirations

or freedoms.

Now Walter Olson, you worked with Anton and Scalia.

He hired you to work at Regulation magazine

at the American Enterprise Institute.

Of course, Regulation is here at Cato now.

Tell me about sort of your early interactions with it.

Well, as I wrote the other day, my first interaction with him was that he gave me my dream job because I wouldn't stop arguing with him.

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