When I had come down the cell I had seen this creature cross the road.

You could have ripped my door off and there wouldn't have been a thing I could have done

about it.

And when I saw it on there, the hair literally went up on the back of my neck.

Well, now you guys have had a lot of people interested in your account, is that correct?

Yeah, it's been crazy, I remember after our encounter happened, I kind of assumed only

encounters were like ours, you know, I'd read a few encounters but wasn't so immersed

into the topic like I am now and I just kind of assumed all encounters were kind of

like that but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Well, when I'd like to do a sort of go through with both of you, how I typically interview

people who've had encounters if that's okay.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

So let's start now, it's been just over years, that right?

It's one year, one year this month.

November 2012.

Right.

Okay.

Now the encounter was, now for those listening who don't know where it was, you guys live

approximately, it's about an hour south of Mount St. Helens and Washington State, is

that right?

I would say it's pretty close, pretty close to an hour, yeah.

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