In this instance, there's nothing that's provable from a scientific standpoint in the in recounting the story.

Right. Just think about the nature of what science is.

What is science?

Science is something that's measurable and can be repeated.

Yeah.

There's nothing repeatable with what we're doing here. Well, I'll tell you, the greatest scientists I knew was John

Better Negegal. And I would bring him weird stuff. And John was an ape guy. And I would

bring John weird stuff all the time. Listen to this, tell me what you think of this,

and I would pick his brain.

And John was an amazing human being.

I loved him.

I mean, we talked all the time and he would say keep having him on keep having this weird stuff on. You never find answers if you'd look the other way. What is it you're trying to prove if you're unwilling,

you know, people who are looking into this weird stuff

really aren't looking for answers.

And he was fascinated by some of the stuff, the lights he was fascinated by, their glowing eyes he was fascinated by.

And John wasn't quick to go, oh, that's nonsense, or that guy's full of crap.

He would say, you know, I don't know, let me really think about that.

And he would think about it, and he would call you up,

and then we would talk about it.

But these Bigfoot researchers, going back to the ego thing I was saying, the day science

takes over the subject, these guys think they're going to, scientists are going to welcome

them with open arms. That couldn't be farther from the truth. They don't need you. They're not, you're not fit to make them a sandwich. So who cares what they think? You know what I mean? And that's my point. Like, why not dig for the truth

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