SC 7 – 4 Stages of Intimacy – Robert & Diane Masters
The Jayson Gaddis Podcast
Jayson Gaddis
4.7 • 999 Ratings
🗓️ 5 August 2015
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
IN THIS EPISODE, You will learn:
- The importance of recognizing conditioning and seeing its role in shaping a more mature relationship
- Why knowing your past experiences and stories can re-empower your relationships
- How to differentiate between healthy shame and unhealthy shame and how they play a crucial role in functional marriages
- How recognizing stages of an evolving relationship can help you better connect with your partner
- How to get to being centered and truly connected with your partner without sacrificing independence
- About the key importance of vulnerability in a marriage
- About the heart of really deep and truly fulfilling sex
And check out these four stages of relationship. We explore these in the episode.
1. Me-centered
2. We-centered codependent
3. We-centered co-independent
4. Being-centered
I had a lot of fun with this one. These two “get” long term relationship and what’s required to go the distance. They also know a great deal about shame, blame, and how to get over it by going to the next stage in your relationship. Robert also supports the power of men facing their own BS and his new book “To Be A Man” is going to be worth the read for the men out there.
Note, our call got “dropped” by skype at one point so you’ll notice the sound quality change a bit. Just a heads up.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The Hey there, what's up, relationship geeks? |
| 0:15.0 | Welcome back to the Smart Couple Podcast where we examine and pick apart, analyze relationship, excellence, and success. And what makes a high functioning marriage over many many years. |
| 0:37.0 | Like what's really required here to go the distance with someone? |
| 0:40.0 | And as you're getting, a lot of it, of course, is about growth and development. |
| 0:46.0 | And if you're not really into growth and development, it's going to be a challenge. |
| 0:49.0 | This episode definitely talks about that challenge of growth and development. |
| 0:53.7 | I've got Robert and Diane Masters here and they've got a beautiful story about their own relationship. |
| 0:59.8 | They found each other after divorce and later in life which I always really appreciate |
| 1:04.8 | hearing stories like this and because a lot of people get to be 40 or 50 and they're |
| 1:09.5 | like oh I guess it's too late, you know? And this interview is encouraging |
| 1:16.0 | because that's not the case, certainly |
| 1:18.9 | with these two people. |
| 1:20.8 | Robert also brings in some cool integral stuff. He doesn't mention it so much on this |
| 1:25.7 | episode specifically because that can lose people but he comes from an integral |
| 1:29.9 | theory framework and if you're into that you can just Google that I'll include that in |
| 1:33.7 | the show notes and you know it's a it's just a I think a helpful frame if you want to |
| 1:40.4 | go deeper into the psychology and the meta level of intimacy. |
| 1:45.0 | And the guy's just written a ton of books about it. |
| 1:47.8 | So I hope you enjoy this one. |
| 1:50.1 | Be sure to tune into the shame part, the part of this conversation around shame and men |
| 1:56.7 | and sexuality. So welcome both of you. |
| 1:59.7 | Thank you, Jason. It's great to be here with you. |
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