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The Jayson Gaddis Podcast

SC 38 - How Circling Can Deepen Your Relationships – Decker Cunov

The Jayson Gaddis Podcast

Jayson Gaddis

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.7999 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2016

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast, I interview Decker Cunov, a leader who has deeply impacted how I show up personally and professionally. For over 10 years, he's been one of the pioneers in a fast-growing transformational practice known as "Circling." As usual Decker packs a punch in his own funky style. Pay special attention to our dynamic near the end.

SHOWNOTES

  • Why does Decker care about relationships so much? [4:17]
  • What was it like growing up as a sensitive kid. [7:15]
  • What IS “circling”? [11:36]
  • How circling is and isn’t like meditation. [15:05]
  • Why does circling matter in relationships. [15:58]
  • A quick way to play “intersubjective tennis” with your partner. [31:34]
  • Decker breaks down the steps of circling. [23:35]
  • What’s it like to “feel another person” in circling. [29:32]
  • Some of the traps of circling. [33:15]
  • Decker starts circling Jayson [43:36]
  • Jayson’s big aha from circling [50:10]
  • What Decker’s son said that blew him away [52:33]
  • The one thing that Decker said that personally impacted Jayson [57:01]

Transcript

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0:00.0

I've known you now for gosh probably eight or so years and I used to not like you. So, Hey, what's up? Welcome back to the smart couple. This is Jason Gatis, your host, and I am, as usual, very surprised at how many people think they can get a good relationship by doing nothing about it.

0:51.0

It boggles my mind that some folks want their relationship to improve and they don't want to put any effort in.

1:01.0

You know, there's a part of human nature that really surprises me and yet I find

1:07.1

it in myself, which is this quality we have to take the path of least resistance whenever and wherever possible.

1:15.4

Give me the easiest thing I can do, please.

1:20.3

And I love to create hacks to simplify my life and my relationships.

1:26.1

And at the end of the day, if I want to go the distance in anything,

1:31.3

I need to put a lot of effort in. So the smart couple knows this. You get that

1:36.3

effort is required if you want a deep connection with your partner. Effort is required if you want to get out of that same dumb looping fight that you always find yourself in, right?

1:50.0

That's the smart couple and both parties are able to look in the mirror and take responsibility

1:57.1

for their part.

1:58.1

Yes, we want this in a relationship.

2:04.0

And in order to get that,

2:06.0

this smart couple knows,

2:08.0

let's bust our ass.

2:10.0

All right.

2:11.0

Yeah, I mean, as Henry Rollins says, nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain.

2:18.6

I'm with Henry.

2:20.6

Remember Henry, punster, dude, Rollins Band? Anyway that quote is

2:28.3

kick ass because that feels true in my life and the best things in my life come when I have busted my ass to get them.

2:38.0

I mean, look at the thing in your life that you're really good at, right?

2:41.4

You're probably good at something. And my guess is, if you look closely, you had to work very hard for many years to get good at that thing you do, that skill you have, right? That's what's required in

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