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The Jayson Gaddis Podcast

SC 13 - MDMA in Relationships? - Dr Will Vanderveer

The Jayson Gaddis Podcast

Jayson Gaddis

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.7999 Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2015

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Can MDMA help our relationships if we do this in a legit way? I explore this question with Dr Vanderveer and we zero in on some key factors if you want to improve your marriage or relationship life using medicine such as MDMA.

SHOWNOTES 

  • Jayson shares his own experiences with MDMA – [1:50]
  • The Low-Down on MDMA trials [4:55]
  • Who is MDMA for? [6:20]
  • What a MDMA-assisted psychotherapy session looks like [8:28]
  • “There’s something really warm and cozy about that” [10:50]
  • Why use MDMA? -Tapping into shared humanity. [13:22]
  • Why does traditional therapy often fall short? [14:45]
  • The importance of integration and structured therapy with MDMA [18:55]
  • Jayson’s MDMA use in college [20:40]
  • Learning to use MDMA safely [24:00]
  • The “Quality”Problems that MDMA-assisted-therapy brings [35:55]
  • Jayson’s experience of a facilitated MDMA session [38:05]
  • Integrating these experiences into your relationships [40:30]
  • “The context is everything” [44:15]
  • State-Changes vs Trait-Changes [45:30]
  • The future of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy [53:10]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, what's up friends. Welcome back to the Smart Couple Podcast. Today we have my good friend and brother on the path, Dr Will Vanderveer and Will is back for a second episode here.

0:17.0

I imagine Dr. Will will be with us from time to time. He'll bounce in and out because I enjoy and appreciate the perspective of a Western

0:26.1

medical doctor that's integrative and alternative who can help us understand the complexities of the brain and intimacy.

0:35.0

He's been married 20 years.

0:37.0

He's a parent of a young daughter, and he just gets, in so many ways the challenges, the trials, and the tribulations of long-term partnership,

0:49.0

both from the inside and from the outside helping and treat many people in a variety of settings.

0:57.0

Will is currently doing a legal and legitimate clinical trial monitored by the DEA for MDMA assisted

1:07.3

psychotherapy and if you're not familiar with MDMA its street name is Ecstasy or Molly.

1:15.0

And a lot of certainly Ravers and kids do this, quote, drug.

1:21.0

Yet, the merit of this as an alternative and very effective treatment for

1:27.3

PTSD is gaining momentum. So you're gonna enjoy this if you're interested in the brain, the body, and our

1:36.0

reactivity and if you react in your own marriage and partnership and you

1:42.0

wonder why and you want to maybe take an alternative slant besides

1:46.4

the traditional couples counseling route, this is going to interest you.

1:51.3

I've been experimenting with MDMA, gosh for maybe six months or so, maybe

1:58.0

a little longer. And I do very intentional sessions with friends and specific people to help me see what I'm not seeing

2:07.9

about my patterns and my relationship and how entrenched some of the old patterns are that get brought up in a long-term

2:15.8

relationship like marriage.

2:17.7

So you know I'm a geek on studying myself and I will use any means possible to look under the

2:24.4

hood of my own psychology and find solutions and answers to any block I have or

2:30.9

any issue that's causing me pain in my life.

2:36.0

So MDMA has been recently very helpful for me.

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