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Lez Hang Out | A Lesbian Podcast

SBG 166: The Witches with Nicole J. Georges

Lez Hang Out | A Lesbian Podcast

Lez Hang Out

Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.7545 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast for childless cat ladies everywhere. This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with graphic memoirist, professor, and podcaster, Nicole J. Georges (@nicolejgeorges), and talk about why the 1990 children’s fever dream, The Witches, Should've Been Gay. If you saw this movie when you were a kid, you just might have a thing for dark haired high femmes with impossibly purple eyes.  Children’s movies in the 80s and early 90s really went all in on nightmare fuel, and The Witches is no exception. This “baby’s first body horror” delivers everything from Animorphs-style transformations to traumatized kids trapped in paintings, plus a convention full of witchy femmes casually peeling off their wigs…and then their faces. The story kicks off with Luke’s grandmother basically issuing a public service announcement about suspiciously stylish, childless cat ladies in sensible shoes, and then immediately kills off Luke’s parents in a tragic accident. With his parents gone, Luke goes to England with his grandmother, where their hotel just happens to be hosting a witch convention led by the highest femme we’ve ever seen, Grand High Witch, Miss Ernst (Anjelica Huston). Luke accidentally stumbles into the convention, overhears Miss Ernst’s extremely chill plan to turn all the children in England into mice, and is immediately turned into a mouse himself alongside his new buddy Bruno. Together with his grandmother, Luke and Bruno set out to stop the witches for good. Witches, and villains in general, have always been queer coded, but in The Witches it barely even feels like subtext. The queerness is so loud it might as well be canon. We get into the chosen family of cults, the oddly sexual energy of fish paste on cucumber sandwiches, and the most important question, are all mice gay? We know one thing for sure, The Witches Should’ve Been Gay. Nicole’s latest book, Emotional Support Animals, featuring therapeutic animal illustrations, worksheets, and grounding exercises is available now. Hear more musings from Nicole on her podcast Sagittarian Matters. Nicole also co-hosts The Gaymazing Race podcast alongside author and professor Karen Tongson.  Join our Patreon family for as little as $5 per month to unlock 25+ full-length bonus episodes, ad-free weekly episodes, mp3 downloads of our original songs, exclusive Discord access, and more!  You can also support the show by shopping small at bit.ly/lezmerch & picking up Lez-ssentials songs on Bandcamp. Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Instagram and follow along on Facebook, TikTok, YouTube and BlueSky @lezhangoutpod. Email us @lezhangoutpod@gmail.com. Connect with us individually: Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Les hang out.

0:02.5

Let's hang out.

0:03.3

And let's talk about what Lesing's about.

0:05.9

Let's hang out.

0:06.8

And let's listen to two hesby and shout.

0:10.7

Let's hang out.

0:14.3

Hey, everyone.

0:15.3

Welcome back to Les Hang out.

0:16.4

I'm Mellie Bridgeta.

0:17.1

And I'm Lee Holmes Foster, and here's what's happening this week.

0:20.6

This week in the Lesdom.

0:25.2

This week in the Lesdom is a place where we can touch base each episode about things

0:28.1

around with the podcast or otherwise. In season 9, we're continuing to release our Patreon

0:32.3

bonus episodes. You can listen to those at bit.ly slash lespatriot.

0:36.4

And your support helps us fund our small team and keep making the show for you.

0:41.0

Thank you so much.

0:42.3

In the greater Les Universe, I don't know about all of you, but is anyone working harder

0:47.2

than Anne Hathaway right now to keep the gays fed?

0:52.2

No.

0:52.7

Talk about Mother Mary indeed.

1:12.1

So Anne Hathaway starring in Mother Mary right now, which people are losing their minds about. I haven't seen it yet because, of course, it's in theaters and we all know my life. But have you seen it? I want to see it. I haven't seen it. I really want to. Honestly, you saying that right now, I'm like, I'm going to try to watch it. Like, well, I'm getting married this weekbook after that.

3:08.2

Yeah, you should, like, quick honeymoon to the movie theater. I, you know how infrequently I see movies in theaters. And I'm like, do I, can I make this one be the movie I see in a theater this year? Super want to see Mother Mary. And then she's like, second face with Dakota Johnson in the Verity trailer. So, like, there's just no harder working woman in the Devil Wares Product 2. We know it's going to be should have been gay. Like, truly, I, how could I even have forgotten that? Like, this, give the gays everything. And hath away. And half the way. And half the gay. Nailed it. Nailed it. Also in the greater lesbian universe, Heartstopper is making a movie to wrap up their love story, which is going to be so cute. There's three seasons of Heartstopper. I don't know how many. Have you seen it, Lee? No, I still haven't. Lee. I know. I'm so sorry. So cute. So gay and excited to see how they wrap everything up. I feel like it's helpful to like know when something's supposed to end. Like I feel like a lot of the times Netflix just cancel shit and you have no clue what's going to happen. So it's sort of nice to be like, all right, three full seasons. Now they're going to make one movie that wraps everything up in a nice bow. We'll see how that goes. But excited to see it. Remember when we bullied Netflix into giving us that for Sense 8? Amazing. Also in the Greater List Universe has been Hotel, another show that I'm going to get around to watching at some point, already has a season five final season announcement, even though I believe season three hasn't even come out yet. So love that for them. Although to be fair with streaming these days, I still don't trust it. I never get my heart set on anything until it is out. Because remember when we were supposed to have a season two of League of Their Own? And then they were like, oh, no, it won't be like a full season. It'll just be like a short season. And then we were like, okay, fine. I guess I will live with that. And then they were like, oh, actually, no, it's just going to be like maybe a movie.

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