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Lez Hang Out | A Lesbian Podcast

SBG 107: Brave with Stephanie Rizo

Lez Hang Out | A Lesbian Podcast

Lez Hang Out

Personal Journals, Tv & Film, Society & Culture

4.7545 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

“Fate be changed. Look inside. All the gays are out for Pride!” This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Mexican American story artist and character designer Stephanie Rizo (@steph_rizo) to talk about the 2012 Disney Pixar hit film Brave. This movie is so gay! It is essentially a coming out story for Merida who is struggling to get her mom to understand that her sexuality is not just a phase and she will 100% burn down the country before marrying a man. We talk about Stephanie’s experience as a storyboard artist and character designer for animation and how she manages to sneak queerness into the backgrounds wherever she can. Then, we delve deeper into everything that makes Brave the gay masterpiece that it is. Merida’s entire personality revolves around breaking free from the heteronormative ideals that her mother is desperately trying to instill in her. We love that this movie ultimately respects who Merida is and does not try to force a love interest onto her in the end like Disney does with so many of its princesses. Not a single one of those male suitors was serious about pursuing marriage and honestly, they don’t exactly come off as straight either. Merida’s own father is a great example of how much internalized homophobia can mess someone up, because that man is 1000% obsessed with bears. He may claim to hate them, but he spends pretty much the entire movie talking about Mordu and his castle is basically a shrine to bears. This man is so bear for bear and he does not even realize it. He also is very supportive of Merida and her distaste for heteronormativity, giving her a bow of her own and not minding one bit about her ‘unladylike’ manners. Elinor, Merida’s mother, takes longer to come around after having forced herself to adhere to her own compulsory heterosexuality. This woman is so bisexual it is almost painful. When she is trying to convince Merida to go through with the marriage, she explains that she too had a defiant ‘phase’ where she did not want to get married. We see you Elinor and you are not fooling anyone. We know one thing for sure, Brave Should’ve Been Gay. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).  Want to support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord community, monthly bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, exclusive merch and more? Join us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Let's hang out.

0:03.2

And let's talk about what lessons are found.

0:06.8

Let's hang out.

0:07.7

And let's listen to two hesby and shout.

0:10.4

Let's hang out.

0:14.5

Hey, everyone.

0:15.7

Welcome back to Let's Hang Out.

0:17.0

I'm Ellie Bridgeta.

0:18.3

And I'm Lee Holmes Foster.

0:19.7

And here's what's happening this week.

0:22.3

This week in the Lesdom is a place where we can touch base each episode about things

0:29.9

around on the podcast or otherwise. We have our Croatia trip coming up, which we are super

0:34.5

excited about. We have five spots left. You can sign up at bit.

0:37.7

dot Lee slash Lesdu, Croatia. The trip is from September 21st to September 27th. So it is coming

0:45.1

up super fast. The final day to sign up is July 23rd, if you have not, but you should get in

0:50.2

before then. We are so pumped. I'm ready. Look, I'm, I'm booked my plane tickets. Like, I want to go tomorrow.

0:57.0

Are you packing already? You're like getting stuff ready, making lists.

1:00.2

Every day I wake up at 5 a.m. I think I'm supposed to get on the plane, you know? Just I'm ready. I'm so ready.

1:04.8

We also want to remind everyone that we are releasing bonus Patreon episodes for all of our supporters on Patreon

1:13.2

starting this season. And we have our last one came out pretty recently on Ammonite.

1:19.7

Ellie and I had a whole lot of thoughts on that movie and how much we both enjoyed it.

1:25.5

So much. And our next one's going to be coming up on June 26.

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