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Saylor: 'I Expect Bitcoin Will Appreciate 30% a Year for the Next 20 Years'

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4.7698 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Strategy founder and executive chairman Michael Saylor named one of CoinDesk's 50 Most Influential. Strategy founder and executive chairman Michael Saylor was named one of CoinDesk’s 50 Most Influential people of 2025. He reflects on the evolution of bitcoin treasuries, from a niche corporate experiment into a global phenomenon, detailing how Strategy has moved beyond simple accumulation into a high-growth operating business centered on digital credit. Plus, his bullish case for bitcoin's growth and outlook into the asset's volatility. – For more, check out CoinDesk’s 50 Most Influential article on Michael Saylor: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2025/12/12/most-influential-michael-saylor.  To see the full list, visit: ⁠https://www.coindesk.com/most-influential-2025⁠.  – Timecodes:  01:21 Michael Saylor’s Bitcoin Journey 02:52 Institutional Support and Bitcoin Volatility 04:18 Bitcoin Treasury Strategies and Digital Credit 06:03 Exploring Digital Credit and Its Practicality 11:49 The Future of Bitcoin Treasury Companies 12:42 Innovations in Digital Credit Instruments 27:08 Challenges and Breakthroughs in 2025 39:16 Looking Ahead: Bitcoin's Price and Market Structure Legislation 43:29 Top Digital Assets for 2026 - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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I expect Bitcoin, it will appreciate about 30% a year for the next 20 years.

0:05.2

And I think that if you look at it as an asset, the volatility is going to click down.

0:11.3

It's gone from 80 to 70 to 60 to 50.

0:14.4

The vol is going to go from 50 to 45 to 40 to 35 to 30 to 25.

0:19.3

It's going to grind down towards something which is 50% more volatile

0:23.3

than the VIX.

0:30.9

Break the cycle of exploitation, break down the barriers to truth, break into the next

0:35.0

generation of privacy, break free. Free to scroll without being monetized, free from censorship, freedom without fear.

0:41.6

We deserve more when it comes to privacy.

0:43.7

Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design.

0:48.3

Break free with midnight, visit midnight.net.net.net. Network forward slash break dash free.

0:52.0

Hey everyone. You're watching CoinDesk and I'm Jen Sanassi.

0:55.9

CoinDest 2025 Most Influential list is officially out and our next guest to find the year by turning

1:01.4

the Bitcoin treasury from a niche idea into a global phenomenon.

1:05.4

We're joined now by Micro Strategies, Michael Saylor.

1:08.2

Michael, great to have you on.

1:10.3

Yeah, happy to be here. I got to stop saying micro strategy. It is strategy, but congratulations

1:14.9

anyways on making CoinDesk's most influential list. Let's just start here. I mean, just a few years

1:22.3

ago, people were calling you crazy for building the largest Bitcoin treasury in the world. From where we're

1:30.1

sitting now, I mean, just reflect on those last few years for me. Yeah, I think, you know,

1:36.9

when I started on this journey, I was looking for digital gold. I was looking for a digital

1:42.2

capital network. And it looked like Bitcoin was that

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