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'Say Nothing' tells the story of 'The Troubles' through one woman's murder

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🗓️ 21 November 2024

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

In the late 1900s, Protestants and Catholics were in conflict over who should rule Northern Ireland, the British or the Irish. The time was dubbed "The Troubles." Journalist Patrick Radden Keefe's Say Nothing tells the story of this conflict through the disappearance of a woman, Jean McConville. His nonfiction book has now been adapted into an FX show by the same name. In today's episode, we revisit a 2019 conversation between Keefe and NPR's Mary Louise Kelly about the conflict, McConville, and how The Troubles left a wound on Ireland's history that remains open today.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Empira's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbong. There's this new show on FX Hulu called Say Nothing.

0:09.3

It's an illuminating and complicated look at Northern Ireland during The Troubles that sells how seductive armed resistance can be, but also shows how empty it can be too.

0:21.8

The show is based on a nonfiction book written by the journalist Patrick Radin-Keefe,

0:26.2

and he was on NPR when it was first published in 2019.

0:30.2

It's worth listening to even if you haven't seen this show because he gets into this idea

0:34.5

of how hard it is to bury history and how violence can leave a really

0:40.5

lasting mark.

0:42.1

That's after the break.

0:44.0

In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life.

0:48.8

Distant wars, murky conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors on our our new show, Sources and Methods.

0:55.4

NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people,

0:59.1

helping you understand why distant events matter here at home.

1:03.0

Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:08.2

In his new book, journalist Patrick Radinkeef uses one crime to tell a much bigger story.

1:15.8

The book is Say Nothing, a true story of murder and memory in Northern Ireland.

1:20.9

It's about the troubles, the decades of conflict when the Irish Republican Army and other Catholic paramilitary groups used bombings and kidnappings and murder to try to force the end of British rule in Northern Ireland.

1:33.1

Protestant paramilitary groups fought back.

1:35.6

At the point where my story begins in 1972, you have the beginning of what was really an all-out war.

1:41.7

You have British soldiers on the streets.

1:43.6

You have the police,

1:45.2

and then you have a whole series of paramilitary groups, planting bombs and shooting at each other

1:49.8

in the streets. This was the backdrop for the disappearance of Jean McConville. She was 38 years old,

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