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Imaginary Worlds

Say No to Santa World Tour: An Audio Drama

Imaginary Worlds

Eric Molinsky

Arts, Science Fiction, Fiction, Society & Culture

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In my annual audio drama, I interview several folklore figures who are synonymous with the holiday season outside America -- but they’ve been overshadowed by the cultural juggernaut of Santa Claus. So they’re on a tour to reintroduce themselves. While I went into this press junket with the best of intensions, some of my interviews went off the rails. It turns out when a supernatural being has been around for centuries, their personal history can get complicated. Featuring André Refig, Vili-Oskari Körkkö, Begonya Ferrer, Teresa Mastrobuono, and Bill Lobley. There will be no episode of Imaginary Worlds on December 31st. The show will return on January 14th. Happy Holidays, everyone! This episode is sponsored by MiracleMade and Uncommon Goods Get 15% off your order at uncommongoods.com/imaginary. Go to TryMiracle.com/IMAGINARY to save over 40%, and when you use promo code IMAGINARY, you’ll get an extra 20% off plus a free 3-piece towel set. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to Imaginary Worlds. I'm Eric Malinsky. When I began this podcast years ago,

0:06.3

I always knew that I wanted to do episodes where I don't just cover imaginary worlds. I wanted to

0:11.4

create them as well. In previous episodes, I've interviewed vampires, Captain Hook,

0:17.7

HP Lovecraft's Brain in a Jar, the ghosts of Christmas, past, present, and future,

0:23.7

and three different versions of James Bond. I decided that I wanted to make audio dramas

0:28.9

an annual tradition and keep one foot in an imaginary world. So sit back, relax,

0:36.7

and for the rest of the episode, suspend your disbelief.

0:42.7

Christmas is almost here, but you knew that already because Santa Claus has been everywhere.

0:49.6

The funny thing is, Santa, as we know him, hasn't been around that long.

0:55.3

He used to be one of many benevolent beings that appeared around the holidays.

1:01.0

Today, those other entities are in danger of being completely overshadowed by the cultural

1:07.9

juggernaut of Santa Claus.

1:10.7

So a group of them are banding together to do a PR campaign.

1:15.6

They're calling it the say no to Santa World Tour.

1:19.6

I was invited to a press junket to meet some of these mythical beings.

1:24.6

I was not going to turn down an invitation like that, even though press junkets can be a bit

1:29.6

of a grind. The event took place at a swanky hotel in Soho. I went up to the seventh floor,

1:37.2

and I saw this tall, thin man with a clipboard and a headset. He had a long white beard and a red cloak

1:43.9

with a hood. That was Pierre Noel, the French equivalent to Santa Claus. He was also the organizer of the tour. He looked like if Santa had a younger brother, who was much more cosmopolitan.

2:03.6

Ah, hello. Good morning. I am Per Noelle. You're from imaginary worlds?

2:09.7

Yes. Bonjour. Je pral francs. I'll take that as a yes.

2:15.8

You are Eric Molinsky. Yes. yes. Well, you are Eric Molinsky.

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