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Conversations That Matter

Saving Statues of Satan?

Conversations That Matter

Jon Harris

Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2023

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Jon follows up to his last podcast responding to the Republican case for public Satanism: • Responding to the Republican Case for...


In this podcast Jon explores the Satanic Temple organization, their motivation, how Satanism undercuts law itself, the recent actions by Michael Cassidy in toppling the Satan monument in the Iowa State Legislature building, etc.


#Satanictemple #iowalegilsature #satan #michaelcassidy

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:34 Satanic Temple

00:16:16 Michael Cassidy Topples Statue

00:30:00 Satanic Temple's Strategy

00:40:39 Neo Conservative Reaction

01:03:49 Should it have been toppled?

01:29:59 Closing Thoughts



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0:00.0

The Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone. It is time for the Conversations That Matter Podcast. I hope you're doing well a little bit later than I wanted to get started sorry about that for those who are waiting

0:29.3

But we have people coming into the chat and if you have any questions or comments or

0:34.3

want to be part of the program. You can start to put those in the live chat.

0:39.2

If you're a patron, of course you can be part of the show if you want you can go to patreon.com

0:44.3

forward slash worldview conversation and there's a link there on the last

0:49.0

announcement for being part of the show we We have a lot to talk about today and it really does concern

0:58.8

this statue. I've been thinking about it because it's it's just been a lot of discourse especially

1:06.2

on social media about this in Christian circles and I know I already did one episode on this that was of course before the Mike

1:15.6

Cassidy toppled this particular statue and I've just I've been surprised to see the reaction that some people including Christians have to this.

1:26.6

And I think it's worth talking about, I think actually an issue like this gets to the heart

1:31.3

of some of the concerns and the issues associated with so-called

1:38.9

Christian nationalism and and just a lot of what we've discussed over the last year, what's appropriate, what's not.

1:47.0

And I think this is a test case in a way.

1:50.0

This is something you can look at and you can say okay

1:57.6

There was a statue first of all should it have been allowed in the first place

2:07.0

It was was that okay was that a good thing was was that just neutral or was that evil and then it was toppled and the manner in which it was toppled I mean that that's somewhat of a separate

2:12.0

issue but it is related.

2:13.0

Was that a good thing?

2:15.0

Even if you don't like the means, was that a good end to pursue?

2:19.0

These are important questions to ask, I think, moving forward because we do have a number of

2:25.7

conservatives who have a, I should say so-called conservatives, neo-conservatives who really want to protect some kind of a religious neutrality and they think

2:38.0

that actually something like this a display like this might even be a positive good

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