I've seen the way that this movie could play out if we're lucky.

Like, when you say, okay, what's the math here?

How much money do we need to spend that we're not currently spending to do?

Yes, let's hear the math.

Let's do it.

But look how many years we need.

It's between one and three billion dollars a year.

That's very, very low, Elizabeth.

I don't believe you're estimate.

It's too low.

No, you should believe my estimate.

Oh my gosh, you should believe my estimate.

It's low enough that we can do it, first of all, but it's grounded in good thinking.

We don't need to recreate restaurant coverage locally.

We don't need to recreate classified ads.

We don't need to recreate the weather report.

But there's a course of a function that for decades,

there's been a tiny little group of very well-meaning and public policy analysts are saying,

okay, what are the critical information needs that do exist and how can we size them?

It is my pleasure to welcome to Yang Speaks, bestselling author, co-founder of Chalkbeat

and the American Journalism Project, Elizabeth Green.

Welcome, Elizabeth.

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