Saving lives with fewer dollars
Planet Money
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🗓️ 27 November 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Today on the show: GiveWell let us in on their decision-making process, as they try to reconcile the urgency of the moment with their normal diligence. We get to watch as they decide if they can back one project, to support health facilities in Cameroon.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Planet Money from NPR. |
| 0:05.9 | This is a story of two groups of people doing life-saving work in totally different ways. |
| 0:12.6 | One group up close with their hands and the other with numbers at a desk. |
| 0:18.1 | That first group provides basic health care and medical supplies in the far north |
| 0:22.9 | region of Cameroon. Their doctors and nurses give vaccines, they monitor pregnancies, |
| 0:28.3 | train patients to look out for signs of malnutrition with tools as simple as a little piece |
| 0:34.3 | of tape, like a measuring tape with red, yellow, and green on it. |
| 0:38.0 | So a mom can wrap it around her kid's arm and measure whether her kid is malnourished. |
| 0:43.3 | So it's a very easy-to-use tool that we train the mothers to use on their children |
| 0:48.1 | so that they get to identify malnutrition very early. |
| 0:52.0 | Madeline Tronto manages grants for the organization called Alima. |
| 0:55.6 | It's an acronym. |
| 0:56.3 | It stands for the Alliance for International Medical Action. |
| 0:59.7 | Last year in Cameroon, Alima treated almost 400,000 people. |
| 1:04.3 | Alima has been able to do this work by staying far out of the fray during an armed conflict |
| 1:09.8 | that has been going on for years, |
| 1:11.5 | by building trust and also by managing difficult logistics. |
| 1:16.4 | Sometimes there's no road. |
| 1:18.8 | You face potential attacks. |
| 1:22.1 | It's scary. It's dangerous. |
| 1:24.1 | To continue that work, Lima's Cameroon program was supposed to get $1.9 million |
| 1:28.6 | this year from USAID. When the Trump administration announced it was gutting USAID, Madeline had just |
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