Welcome to the Trauma Therapist podcast. My name is Guy McPherson. I interview incredible people who've dedicated their lives to helping those who've been impacted by trauma. A big thank you to our sponsors and our guests who are supporting this show.

So five, four, three, two, and one. Dr. Glenn and Phyllis Hill are the founders of connection codes, a relational

model built from their own lived experience. Connection codes began with a marriage on the brink.

Dr. Glenn and Phyllis were drowning in pain, stuck in cycles of connection, and desperate for

answers. Determined to understand what was wrong, Glenn went back to school, not just for a degree, but for a way to save their relationship.

Out of that struggle, came the science-grounded emotional tools they now teach to couples, families, and organizations.

Today they speak, train, and mentor people around the world, helping them understand their emotional wiring and build relationships that actually work.

The book is called The Connection Codes, The Blueprint, and Tools for Creating the Relationships

You Crave.

All right, welcome to the podcast.

Before we get going, share with our listeners where you're from and originally and where you are

currently.

Yeah.

Well, now we live in Nashville, Tennessee, and we've actually been here 25 years.

So we've been married 43 and have lived numerous places in those 43 years, but have been here a long time, raising our family.

Okay. Phyllis actually grew up in Germany, and I grew up on a farm in South Carolina.

So two different worlds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, let's, I mean, obviously we touched upon a little

in the bio. How did this journey start for the both of you? Well, I'll give you the short answer, and that is pain.

Now, she'll explain it.

Wow.

Well, we met as teenagers and got married young, but we thought we had a really great foundation.

Good jobs, bought our first house right away.

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