I walked into places, assumed I knew more than grown adults who had entire lives and cultures

and beliefs and values. And I walked into those settings with the confidence of a terrified 15-year-old,

the fear of what if I'm getting any of this wrong? Deeply offensive. I mean, my brother had nearly died. After one of my trips, half my hair had fallen out because we didn't have any food for the whole two months. Like any, we didn't need any protein. We ate rice and green beans for two whole months. I ended up sleeping in my sleeping bag under the pay phones. My parents were finally like, no, you're done. You're never going back. back you never going to be allowed to do a trip. You can't do an internship. You can't be an intern.

There's a lot of worrying things in the world. But teen mania and those, I was always scared

all the time.

What have I been doing?

Lay down my autonomy.

After that, it got very dark very quickly.

Hey, my name is Shalise Ansela, and this is Colts to Consciousness, or we discuss leaving high-demand

religions or organizations and finding healing and independence through awareness and true individual sovereignty.

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They are real people guys sharing their stories. We did release channel memberships. If you want special YouTube specific perks, that is finally available. You can check that out. It's really easy to join a tier. They all have special perks and badges, even special live streams depending on the tier. If you want to support the podcast. So today's guest, I was so happy to

be connected to her. She was on the shiny happy people to documentary, her and her brother. We do

have an interview with her brother coming as well, excited to speak with him. And now I'm really

looking forward to getting her perspective on her individual experiences going on those

mission trips, her experience at teen media, her experience

with the internships and everything that she had to unravel after her parents put a stop to it.

So thank you so much for joining us, Liz Boltz-Ranfeld.

Thanks so much for having me. I'm really happy to join you to talk today.

Yes, so awesome. So let's just get right into what has been the reaction since the release. You know, I didn't see it beforehand. So I, several hours after it was released, I got to sit down and watch it with some friends. I was so glad I watched it with some friends. It really, I don't know, made it a very social and encouraging environment. But I had already heard from a lot of people that I know who were either

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