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I'm Josh Peck and I'm Ben Soffer and we're the good guys.

There's a lot of guys out there and we're the good ones.

Welcome back to the good guys. Josh, how are you? Benjamin, I'm so happy to be here.

God bless. I saw you at Madison Square Garden last night. Were you on the wood as they say?

No, and I only want to talk very positively about the nicks. My experience was wonderful.

Did they give me wood? No, they did not. And I got to be with you.

Let's be honest. You got to be very, very careful with what you say about the nicks organization.

I know. Look, the problem is they don't, they don't value social media as much as they do,

even low-grade television. If you were on one TV show for a split second, like literally like a

cameo, you get wood. Easily. It's so easy. They'll put you in front. They're like celebrity,

row, the janitor from Big Bang 3. One, literally one second. You can get on celebrity row. Us,

nope, we can't do it. But beautiful seats. Beautiful seats. So they call it celebrity row,

huh? Oh, yeah. And yeah, you're right. Because if you were on like one episode of NCIS Scottsdale

or CSI VOKA, you're getting, you're getting the next to Ben Siller. And it's ridiculous. The hierarchy,

I heard through Michael Rappaport that if you do anything, if you say one thing against your

organization, you're banished from the wood. You'll never feel the wood again. That would make sense.

But I have only wonderful things to say about the wonderful organization. And honestly,

they brought me in. They treated me like gold. They treated spirit society like gold.

They put, I don't know if you saw, I was on MSGPM. They gave us tickets to the game.

Had a wonderful post-game segment where we shot the shit, spoke about New York, spoke about the

Knicks, spoke about Spritz. And we even got the chance to speak about De Blasio. They really did

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