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The Bulletin

Saudi Crown Prince Visit, GOP Realignment, and the Performative Male

The Bulletin

Christianity Today

News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.4586 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week, President Trump hosts the Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman for a formal White House visit, despite the prince’s responsibility for numerous human rights abuses. National security expert Elizabeth Neumann joins Mike Cosper and Clarissa Moll to discuss how to interpret this visit. Then, New York Times columnist David French stops by to talk about shifts in the Republican party as the U.S. emerges from the government shutdown. Finally, CT’s Sho Baraka joins us to talk about the TikTok trend of the performative male, and how one man in Detroit is using jujitsu to teach boys and men to control their strength and be emotionally open.  REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE: -Mastering Masculinity with Jason Wilson by Sho Baraka   GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN:  -Join the conversation at our Substack.  -Find us on YouTube.  -Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice.  ABOUT THE GUESTS:   David French is a columnist for The New York Times. He’s a former senior editor of The Dispatch and author of Divided We Fall: America’s Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation. Elizabeth Neumann is a national security expert who has served across three presidential administrations: on the inaugural staff of the White House Homeland Security Council under President George W. Bush, as an advisor to the office of the director of national intelligence during the Obama Administration, and as the Department of Homeland Security’s deputy chief of staff and assistant secretary for counterterrorism and threat prevention in the Trump administration. Neumann is also a national security contributor for ABC News. Sho Baraka is a recording artist, performer, culture curator, activist, and writer. Baraka is an alumnus of Tuskegee University and the University of North Texas. He is a cofounder of Forth District and the And Campaign, and he has served as an adjunct professor at Wake Forest University School of Divinity. He was an original member of influential hip-hop consortium 116 Clique, recording with Reach Records. In 2024, Baraka became the Big Tent editorial director for Christianity Today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We will welcome you with open arms, like literally putting your arm around your shoulders and make you a member in good standing in the world order.

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It felt very crass.

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From Christianity today, you're listening to The Bulletin, a podcast about the people, events, and issues that are shaping our world. I'm Clarissa Mall, producer and moderator of the Bulletin, a podcast about the people, events, and issues that are shaping our world.

0:21.5

I'm Clarissa Mall, producer and moderator of the Bulletin.

0:25.3

This week, the Saudi Crown Prince arrives in Washington for a visit, government shut down

0:30.1

fallouts, hint at shifts within the Republican Party, and boys become men in a cave in Detroit.

0:37.2

Elizabeth Newman, David French, and Chobaraka join Mike and me for the conversation.

0:41.9

Welcome to the show.

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1:23.5

Hello, listeners. Welcome to our Friday Roundtable. Joining me today, our senior contributor, Mike

1:28.5

Kossper. Hi, Mike. Hi, good to be here. And Homeland Security expert, Elizabeth, Newman.

1:34.1

Elizabeth, thanks for being with us today. Thanks for having me. This week, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

1:39.9

of Saudi Arabia visited the U.S. for a special meeting with President Trump.

1:45.0

He has become a true partner for peace and prosperity for our countries and for the world

1:50.7

and for peace in the Middle East, which was a crowning achievement for both of us.

1:56.1

The last time the Crown Prince visited the White House was 2018, just months before the murder of journalist

2:02.5

Jamal Khashoggi, which U.S. intelligence agencies during the Biden administration said was

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