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18 plus Teas and C Supply. Begamblerware.org. This is Monica Perez and we are here with today's episode, today's installment.

You're telling me I still got it, Blake.

Thank you.

For those of you who are just listening, this is streamed live across my video platforms anyway on Tuesdays at 3, so we have a little chat.

And it's Saucers of the Illuminati.

This is our third installment of it.

It was written, he said originally 1993.

I think what did we say?

This one was published in, yada, yada, 90.

Okay.

But it's so like the X-Files.

And then I was listening to my friends at History Homo Sapiens and hat tip to Dom for that one.

And they did an episode on The Controllers, which was another slim volume, 50 pages or whatever,

by a guy named Martin Cannon, who's still kicking around. He just wrote a book called

The Child Steelers. I was listening to his podcast on that. And he's not a total conspiranoid,

but he definitely delves into these things. He claimed that he wrote it in

1988. It was about 50 pages, and it's about the possibility that the mind control stuff,

starting with Jose Delgado and all those guys, is 100% responsible for abductee experiences and that the aircraft stuff, 100% could be Nazi

saucer technology, U.S. military stuff. So it isn't the same as this. This book, this Jim

Keith, Saucers of the Illuminati that we're talking about, that gets into, you know, theoretical stuff and big picture stuff. Martin Cannon just does the research. She's like, this is what they were capable of. This is what people said they experienced. And this could explain the whole thing. But, you know, I keep wondering who was first. Canon in 88 with that, the X-Files in whatever, 902, this was written in 93.

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