All right, three, two, one. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates.

On tonight show, I have a very special guest. He came to my attention through my producer in the UK, and he's written and posting a lot of very interesting information on his Twitter feed.

He goes by the title, Saturnalia Sundown. I'll reference him as sundown.

But in particular, we're going to talk about a fascinating case that I remember that involved a young man in the far western part of Brazil, really closer to, I think, Chile, that part of Brazil, that he wrote that he had this very strange room with very cryptographic insignias and statuaries, little statuarial figures.

His name was Bruno Borges.

And that story kind of came to the surface and, you know, it kind of came out of my perspective.

I wasn't really following it.

But sundown has followed it. So I'm going to ask him a few questions, and he's going to talk about this interesting case and maybe some of the other research that he's done on other kind of parapolitical subject. So Sundown, are you there? I'm here. Awesome. Great to be here, thank you. Oh, awesome. Well, I appreciate you agreeing to the interview.

I was going through your Twitter feed with great interest on all these other different subjects as well.

But for people who aren't aware of you, can you talk a little bit about your background and how you became interested in these subjects and then lead into the odd case of Bruno Borges?

So I'd say this all sort of began when I was basically a sensibly a young child.

I've been pretty deeply interested in esotericism, the occult, and stuff like that since I was 11, 12.

I started using 4chan very early. I started browsing 4chan when I was

10 or 11 in 5th grade, 6th grade. And around the same time, I was listening to a lot of industrial

music like throbbing gristle, current 93, I'm sure you know, or maybe have heard about how

they're sort of all tied up with the Lima and chaos magic and stuff like that.

And I essentially just spun off from there. I got really into Philip K. Dick. I was enamored for several years with the concept of Gnostic Christianity,

and I've become less so in recent years. And essentially, I've just tried to make a relatively

thorough study of Western esotericism as it relates to conspiracy theory, basically.

In more recent years, I think we live in a very political climate.

So just like you're saying, parapolitics, the two sort of are inseparable from each other

once you sort of know enough about occult philosophy

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