I'm Israel Gutierrez. I'm hosting a new podcast called Four Years of Heat. It takes you to Miami from 2010 to 2014

with LeBron James, Chris Bosch and Duane Wade, set the NBA ablaze.

You know, having an opportunity to team up with the best trio to ever play the game of basketball

will take you inside those four monumental years with behind-the-scenes access and insight about one of the greatest teams ever

for a sum. Four years of heat on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

There are definitely things you have to find within yourself in order to make it real. Like, like, how would I behave if I were a raging half-hole in this moment?

His name is Kelly Acorn. You may know him as Dollar Bill Stern on Billions, where he's had an increasing role,

Pastor Tim on the Americans, Rolls in the House of Cards. And he just happens to be from Oregon, where I spent seven years working at KGW.

Kelly Acorn is joining us on our Saturday Morning Podcast. Billions premiered last week, season four.

It's one of my, I would say, seminal four or five TV shows of my life. I've really enjoyed. Kelly, how are you?

I'm well. How are you? Thanks for having me on.

You bet. One of the reasons I like, there's so much I like about Billions, but I like the complexity of the characters.

There's, there's things I love about, you know, Bobby Axelrod and there's things I hate about him.

What initially, when you got the script initially in the role, were you, did the writing jump out to you?

Did you have a sense of, oh, God, this is going to work and it's going to work big.

Yeah, I did. Now, I didn't get the entire script, but I had the scenes I was auditioning for in an audition for a few different characters.

And I got snippets of the rest of the script and it was, you know, it was, it was, it was top notch.

I knew the guys who were involved. I knew that, that Damien Lewis and Paul G. Mottie were going to star.

I knew that Brian Coppill and I, David McBean, who did rounders and those 13 were involved.

And I was like, this is, this is absolutely something you want to be a part of.

Even though I didn't know at the beginning, whether dollar bill, what size of a little dollar bill would be,

it, you know, it was kind of a cool nickname and the description was,

...