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Guaranteed Human.

The Michael Barry Show.

Mary Talley Bowden is a reminder as to why we should not.

We still don't have all the information.

We still have not revealed all the misinformation.

We still have not cast blame.

And, of course, most importantly, we still have not cast blame and of course most

importantly we still have not punished those who deserve to be punished. Mary

Talley Bowden has a new book out. Oh I did not realize that you see the name of

the book? How Michael Berry changed my life. Wow that is really, Mary Talley. Welcome to the program.

Thank you. Yes. The majority of the book is all about you, Michael. She did threaten that I should

probably read it before she published it because I wouldn't like some of it. I said,

that's okay. I just won't read it. I'll just make sure nobody reads it.

I'll just say it didn't get published.

First of all, let's go back to the first time you were on.

You told Ramon it was August of 21.

It was not.

It was spring of 2020.

COVID was not a big deal yet. And I had you on because I saw a video of you

that described, self-described you as Dr. Snotsucker. And I said, any attractive woman doctor

who can go by that name, that's, that's, I like her already. And then I had you on

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