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The Michael Berry Show.

The guy who was getting beat up the worst, through no fault of his own.

He was just taking the beating and getting back up with Sean Spicer, the press secretary and communications director.

And he's our guest. Welcome to the program, sir.

Hi, Michael. Good to be with you. Thank you.

You've got to be thinking, as you see Carolyn Levitt up there going, hey, I didn't have it this easy. Well, you know, it's funny when you say that, I had a conversation with the president a couple weeks back, and he was asking, he said, you know, this is just how he operates. He always says, how do you think it's going?

How's everyone doing?

And I said to him, sir, I'm a little jealous. He started laughing. And he said, why do you say that? I said, because, you know, we came and he was very magnanimous. He said, oh, that's nice. And I said, well, it's true. I think we went in for, you know, with all the best intentions.

And to your point in in your introduction, there were some people that didn't share that. And they thought that they either were there to serve their own agenda or to resist his. And I think a lot of it was new. And I said to folks before, you know, part of the thing for me was I actually had this very

fun conversation with him at one point. And we're talking about traditions and how the White House

operates. And he looks at me and he said, Sean, I'm going to be the most traditional president ever.

And I was like, oh, cool. I know tradition. I can, I, like, I got this.

And that clearly wasn't the case. And, and, you know, he beats to his own drum and,

uh, he has his own style in his way. And, and it's just, it was, it was a learning experience

for a lot of us. Um, and, and like I said, so I so I was so super proud to have been part of that.

And but it's different. And here's the thing, Michael, I've identified three things, the people,

the process, and the policies. And you touched on this at the beginning of your segment. And what I mean by the people is, last time he expressed a lot of people that they said, oh, I want to serve in the Trump administration or they were recommended by somebody. And so he took their word for it. And they weren't people that were there for the right necessarily intentions. This time, the people that he's brought on board, he knows, he trusts,

they understand the goal at hand, and that's a very different dynamic. Okay, so that's number one.

Then we go to the policies. He knows exactly what he wants to do and how to do it. He knows what

he wants to fight for, what he wants to accomplish. And the last is the process, which is he knows how to do it now.

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