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Guaranteed Human. The Michael Berry Show. Is it Mr. Foreman or Pastor Foreman these days? Just don't call me too late for dinner. Call me in time for dinner. Or is it the father of five George's? You know, we have one son who we named Michael, and we're going to have another son, and I said, wouldn't it be cool to name him Michael and my wife said hey I'm not necessarily against that I said hey George Foreman has five

Georges if it's good enough for him it's good enough for me well you you haven't had to get hit on

the head by Joe Frazier more I'm on our lead Ken Norden so you'll have an easy time remembering

names you know what I went back this morning and watched your first fight with Frazier.

The hitting on the head was you hitting Joe Frazier. It wasn't him hitting you.

You know, with Joe Frazier passing, I know a lot of people are reaching out to you.

I went back and watched that fight. It wasn't a very long fight,

but I'm curious with all these years later what you remember of it, because I'll tell you,

as we talked about this morning, I was three years old when that fight took place, but I've heard so much about it. You know, the sunshine showdown, a rumble in the jungle, all these

fights that you had, but to go back and watch it, you didn't dance around, you didn't move, you just seemed cool.

And in fact, CoSell talks about repeatedly the fact that you're so calm.

Take me back to that fight.

Well, you've got to understand that you've got to take you back to Joe Frazier.

Joe Frazier was not the bigger of any of us. He was the smallest in statute for his weight,

but for some reason everyone was afraid of Joe Frazier. Not everybody wanted to fight him,

even Mohamed Ali had lost because Frasier would not stop coming. So I kept thinking I want to

be champ of the world, but I was hoping Frasier would retire and I'll fight someone else. So I kept thinking I wanted to be champ of the world,

but I was hoping Frasier would retire and I'll fight someone else.

So when the bell rang, I was like, what is going to be in the first place?

You know.

What am I doing in the ring with smoking Joe Frazier?

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