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Origin Story

Satire: Laughter in the dark

Origin Story

Podmasters

Society & Culture, History, News, News Commentary

4.7811 Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

“But it’s satire!” says every Twitter lout, demagogue or disinformationist to justify their abuse, pile-ons or straight-up lies. But what IS satire? How does it work? What distinguishes it from bullying? Does it even have to be funny? Ian Dunt and Dorian Lynskey go in search of the truth of satire on a journey that takes in The Thick Of It, Basil Fawlty, Jonathan Swift, Succession, Lenny Bruce, trickster gods, Boris Johnson, Peter Cook and Beyond The Fringe, Spitting Image and more… all the way back to the origin 1.4 million years ago of laughter itself. Help Ian and Dorian develop Origin Story by backing us on Patreon. You’ll get the show early and without ads, plus extra good stuff too. “Wait… this word that I’ve been using all of my life, nobody knows what it means?” – Dorian Lynskey “Satire is a sort of glass wherein beholders do generally discover everybody’s face but their own” – Jonathan Swift “Satire tells you more about its era than any other literature.” – John R Clarke “Laughter is a response to frustration, just as tears are. And it solves nothing, as tears do.” – Kurt Vonnegut “Audiences like to think satire is doing something but mostly it’s making them satisfied – rather than angry, which is what they should be.” – Tom Lehrer Picture: The Thick Of It, BBC Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Audio production and music by Jade Bailey. Logo art by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Some words have been robbed of all meaning. They've been used, abused, mangled, contorted,

0:13.1

weaponised and stripped of context. If we can't agree on what words mean, then we can't agree on much.

0:18.2

This is origin story. In each episode, we take a key term from the political or cultural discourse

0:22.4

and tell the story of where it came from, what happened to it, and what it means today.

0:26.3

By exploring the history of the ideas, we'll try to get a clearer understanding of where we are now.

0:30.7

My name's Dorian Linsky, author of 33 Revolutions per Minute, and the Ministry of Truth.

0:34.6

And my name is Ian Dant. I'm a columnist with the Iron newspaper and I'm the author of How to Be a Liberal.

0:38.2

So, Ian, this week we are ostensibly talking about satire.

0:41.9

But I think we're also talking about the relationship between comedy and politics in general.

0:47.0

I think maybe it's a little bit more like, obviously, with a superhero episode,

0:50.2

we're talking about sort of politics and comic books.

0:54.0

It's not cheap. We're talking about sort of politics and comic books. This should be a new tradition for us.

0:56.3

Every season we have one cheat episode.

0:58.5

People don't, I mean, I guess, I mean, the definition of satire is really contested,

1:04.8

but not like on Twitter.

1:06.4

People aren't kind of having massive rouse about, you're not a real satirist. But we do have a lot of arguments

1:14.1

about the role of politics and comedy and, you know, comedians who become political

1:19.3

YouTubers and people who get into trouble over jokes and, you know, and then get cancelled

1:24.4

and so on and so forth. So we're going to talk about some of that, but we're going to hinge it around satire,

1:28.7

which turns out to be, right, like a really, I didn't expect this.

1:33.5

No.

1:33.8

I mean, I'm a little tired of starting the research these things and looking at all these

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