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The Dream

Satanic Panic Redux

The Dream

Little Everywhere

Society & Culture, Business, Health & Fitness

4.515.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Revisiting our 2025 Halloween episode, Jane is diving into the darkness with journalist, writer and podcaster, Sarah Marshall, about her knew podcast "The Devil You Know". What we're talking about here is top grade 80's christian- right hysteria, mixed with the rise of Oprah, Donahue and daytime TV sensationalism AND recovered memory therapy! Get on board, we're heading back in time, looking for satan!


Listen to "The Devil You Know" here:


https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/2054-the-devil-you-know-with-sarah-marshall


Find more from Sarah Marshall here:


Instagrams: iamsarahmarshall

Threads: @ms.sarahmarshall

Website: remembersarahmarshall.com


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Jane Marie, and this is The Nightmare.

0:13.5

Happy Halloween, everybody.

0:15.5

Today, we're going to talk about Satan, Sarah Marshall, who you know from your other favorite podcast,

0:24.2

You're Wrong About, has a new show out called The Devil You Know,

0:28.6

all about the satanic panic in the 80s.

0:32.1

So this is a mini-series that I've made with CBC podcasts,

0:36.4

and it's a total of 16 delicious episodes on the

0:41.4

spread of the satanic panic and trying to get at what that looked like through individual

0:46.6

testimony, because I've been researching the satanic panic since I was in grad school, and it has

0:52.9

gone from something that felt kind of inert and a part of history that we hadn't reckoned with yet to a part of the present day that was happening right now.

1:02.1

Like polio.

1:05.2

And it's been a wild ride.

1:08.1

And one of the things that I love that I was able to do on the show is that,

1:12.5

you know, researching this topic for such a long time left me with quite a lot of questions

1:18.8

really about like, what was it like to be the child of someone who was going through

1:22.0

recovered memory therapy and who was consequently really suffering in her day-to-day life?

1:27.3

Or what was it like to be one of the real

1:28.9

people who knew the people who became the characters and Michelle remembers as they were writing

1:34.4

this book that helped start the panic? And just these questions about, you know, what was it like

1:39.1

to be a teen who was profiled as a Satanist for no particular reason, just because something

1:44.1

shocking happened in

1:45.1

town and the police had no better ideas. These questions about how to try and observe the

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