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Francis Foster.

I'm Constantin Kissin.

And this is the show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant guest this week is a returning guest of trigonometry.

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Saginovakad, card Carl Benjamin welcome back

Thanks for having me really appreciate it

is good to how you handling the vice are you self isolating I imagine

uh yeah but i actually work from home. My office is in my garage.

So honestly, my daily life is exactly the same.

I didn't realize I'd been self-iseling

for the past like five years.

And so there we go.

That's why you're happy.

Yeah, you've pioneered the whole movement.

Well, it's interesting times.

And one of the things I was thinking obviously you and us as well,

we spent a lot of time in the last few years talking about

the culture war. You know it seems to me that you know like when people are dying of coronavirus

when there's a shortage of ventilators,

somehow what pronouns you use has become slightly less important.

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