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The New Yorker: Fiction

Sarah Shun-lien Bynum Reads Joan Silber

The New Yorker: Fiction

The New Yorker

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4.43.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Sarah Shun-lien Bynum joins Deborah Treisman to discuss “Evolution,” by Joan Silber, which was published in The New Yorker in 2022. Bynum is the author of the novels
Madeleine Is Sleeping,” a National Book Award finalist, and “Ms. Hempel Chronicles”—and the story collection “Likes.” She was named one of The New Yorker’s “20 Under 40” fiction writers in 2010. 

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0:00.0

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0:06.9

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0:31.2

This is the New Yorker Fiction Podcast from The New Yorker Magazine.

0:34.4

I'm Deborah Treesman, fiction editor at The New Yorker.

0:38.4

Each month, we invite a writer to choose a story from the magazine's archives to read and discuss. This month, we're going to hear Evolution by Joan Silber,

0:43.9

which appeared in The New Yorker in September of 2022. I ran away with a boy when I was 16.

0:51.9

He was three years older, and I was enormously flattered that he wanted me to run off with him.

0:57.5

We didn't say we loved each other. We didn't bring that up, but my lust for him was great and constant.

1:05.8

The story was chosen by Sarah Swanen Bynum, who is the author of three books of fiction, including the novel

1:12.0

Ms. Hempel Chronicles, a Penn Faulkner award finalist, and the story collection Likes, which was

1:17.3

published in 2020.

1:19.3

Hi, Sarah.

1:20.5

Hi, Deborah.

1:22.0

So you chose to read a story by Joan Silber, who has published 10 books of fiction in the past 45 years or so.

1:30.0

Have you read a lot of her work and what makes it really stand out for you?

1:34.6

I love Joan Silver's work, which I first discovered in 2003 when I was reading the O'Henry Prize anthology, and she had a story in it called

1:48.4

The High Road, and it was this first-person voice that just leapt out and dazzled me. And I have

1:58.1

just been such an admirer of her work ever since then.

2:03.8

And each successive book has just been filled with these sharp, indelible voices telling their life stories.

2:13.2

And I get pleasure every time I dive into one of them.

2:18.4

What do you think makes her voice is so indelible in that way?

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