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Hi, everyone. It's Sophia.

Welcome to Work in Progress.

Welcome back to Work in Progress with our favorite girlie, Sarah Shahi.

I cannot wait to pick her brain specifically about her new book, Life is Lifey.

Okay, so we talked about it a little bit in our first part, but Life is Lifey is, it's just a delicious book and it's funny and it's

empowering and it's raw and like there's moments that make you blush a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's so much I want to talk about, but a few chapters I want to really dig into.

And we talked about this earlier.

You know, the notion that you talk about encourage about how we will choose familiar hell over unfamiliar heaven, you know,

this, this requirement for practice, not just to take a risk or get a divorce, but to actually start

to make decisions about, as you say, doing the shit that feels daunting and uncomfortable.

Can you talk a little bit about realizing that courage is a practice, not a place you arrive at. Absolutely. For me,

the way I was able to do it, because I am a people pleaser, right? Or I should say I'm a

recovering people pleaser. I would turn myself into a pretzel. And I think a lot of women do

this in order to be able to say yes to everybody except allowing myself to do what I needed to do or wanted to do.

And the way I was able to practice courage is, first of all, I saw this fantastic quote,

I'm not sure who said it, but it was speak up even if your voice shakes.

So that allowed me to, to again, carry my fear with me. I don't have to feel brave

as I'm saying this. I can feel really scared as I'm saying this too and that's okay. But just

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