Hi, I'm Sing Sing and I'm Simon Jack. And Good Bad Billionaire is back. It's the podcast

exploring the lives and livelihoods of some of the world's richest people, but this time there's

a twist. On Good Bad Dead billionaire, we are looking back on the lives of some titans of

US industry. Like the first ever billionaire, John D. Rockefeller. The founder of the Ford

Motor Company, Henry Ford.

And the First Lady of Wall Street, Hetty Green.

And Simon and I are asking you if they were good, bad or just another billionaire.

Good bad billionaire.

Listen on BBC Sounds.

Hello, I'm Kirstie Young.

Thank you for downloading this podcast of Desert Island Discs from BBC Radio 4. For rights reasons, the music choices are shorter than in the radio broadcast. For more information about the programme, please visit BBC.co.com.ukes slash radio four. My castaway this week is the comedian Sarah Milliken. Her every woman yet no-holds-barred style of comedy has brought her sell-out tours and several of her own highly successful series on the BBC.

Reveling in normality and drawing on the difficult, intimate and often excruciating moments of being human, she dares to say what most of us are thinking, only she's funnier,

much, much funnier. A Jordy born in South Shields, her dad was an engineer down the mines,

and her mum was a hairdresser. They encouraged their daughter in her storytelling and performing,

even though her childhood shyness meant she'd recite her poetry from behind the living room curtains.

Later, it was pain that first propelled her onto the stage,

when a broken early marriage provided the catalyst she needed to find the courage to confront

the glaring judgment of the audience's gaze.

Her rise was then rapid. Within four years, she was awarded best newcomer at the Edinburgh Fringe.

She says, people come along and think, oh, she's being too rude. They don't realize I'm just like this at home.

People think I'm prim and proper at home, but I'm not. I'm just me, transplanted onto the stage.

So do you find, you're one of those people then that finds comedy

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