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Bulwark Takes

Sarah & JVL Roast MAGA’s Weird “Trad” Fixation

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Taylor and Travis were a bright spot until Charlie Kirk made it weird. JVL and Sarah Longwell show how his shift into "submit to your husband" politics reveals the insecurity behind the MAGA movement's obsession with "trad."

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:01.9

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0:26.6

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0:32.6

But we're going to do that in a minute.

0:34.6

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0:43.4

All right, Sarah, you've been away. You came home from a legit vacation to the news that Travis Kelsey had popped the question to Taylor Swift.

0:53.2

And it was all cool until Charlie Kirk decided to talk about it.

0:58.9

And let's get people to listen.

1:01.2

This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.

1:07.7

Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds reject feminism submit to your

1:14.3

husband taylor you're not in charge so uh what why do you got to go and make it weird man

1:22.1

well this is one of those things where everyone's got to have a take right like everyone's looking

1:27.2

for an angle in on the Kelsey Swift romance.

1:34.6

You know, I was just thinking, though, of the three characters in this video, I know the most about Charlie Kirk.

1:41.8

So I don't know.

1:43.8

I know that he plays football. I know that she about Charlie Kirk. So I don't know. I know that he plays football.

1:46.5

I know that she sings.

1:49.4

And unfortunately, I'm more familiar with Charlie Kirk's.

1:53.5

In your world, he's the most famous person.

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