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My castaway this week is Sarah Dukas, a founder of Storm Model Agency.

She is one of the most powerful women in fashion.

Best known for spotting a 14-year-old Kate Moss and turning her into a multi-million dollar brand.

These days, alongside models Lily Cole, Cindy Crawford and Eva Herzegov.

Her books also feature Carla Bruni, Emma Watson and Michael Bublay, people for whom modelling is a bridge to a different life.

But although she's been more than 20 years at the top of this most fickle of industries,

she claims she's never had a proper job.

I've always managed, she says, to survive without one. It was the threat of spending her teens

in Doncaster that propelled her to run away to London. Once there, she did a spot of modelling,

ran a bric-a-brac stall and managed punk bands. I'm a terrible old rocker, she says, and I always knew my life

would be unconventional. So, Sarah Dukas, you say you get that feeling when you see somebody

who's going to be a model. What is the feeling as you're standing in the queue at Waitrose or

wherever, and you spot one.

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