Sarah Brown on her daughter’s death, the importance of educating all children and her time at Downing Street
Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy
Channel 4 News
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 29 April 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Sarah Brown is the Chair of Theirworld. Their mission is to end the global education crisis. She’s also the Executive Chair for the Global Business Coalition for Education.
She joins Krishnan to talk about Theirworld’s work and how they are helping Ukrainian children. She also speaks about her experience of losing her daughter, Jennifer, and her time at Downing Street.
Producer: Freya Pickford
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World. I'm Krishnan Giri Murphy and this is the |
| 0:07.0 | podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas in their lives, the |
| 0:11.9 | ways they change the world and the events that have helped shape them. My guess this week |
| 0:17.3 | is Sarah Brown. Now Sarah of course became famous as the wife of Gordon Brown, the chancellor |
| 0:24.0 | of the ex-jector and then the prime minister but since then she has led a global charity |
| 0:31.9 | called Their World which focuses on education around the world and does all sorts of other |
| 0:37.8 | things as well including a podcast rather than like this one which focuses on making the |
| 0:42.6 | world a better place. Sarah welcome to the podcast. Thanks Krishnan, thanks for having me on. |
| 0:48.9 | Your story is very much about taking the advantages and the life experience that you have |
| 1:00.0 | and turning it into some good and obviously your own podcast, Better Angels, focused on how people |
| 1:04.9 | did that in their lives but obviously we want to explore that in your own experience and what |
| 1:11.0 | came to you. So we should really begin with what the original plan was. Before Gordon Brown |
| 1:18.3 | and Downing Street and all of that, what did Sarah Brown imagine her life or Sarah? |
| 1:23.0 | Sarah McAulie, yeah. Yes, Sarah McAulie. What did Sarah McAulie think her life was going to be? |
| 1:28.7 | Well in my head I'm still Sarah McAulie. I know my outside persona is very Sarah Brown but I went |
| 1:35.0 | to a state school in North London. I thought that campaigning and marching and having placards |
| 1:40.2 | was a completely normal thing to do. I grew up in a time when Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister |
| 1:45.6 | so going out to the Rock Against Racism Contest or an anti-apartite march was a very normal way to |
| 1:50.9 | be able to kind of share what you thought and call for change and I don't think any of that has ever |
| 1:56.8 | left me but along the way I've went to university, I've you know worked, I've met Gordon, we got married |
| 2:04.5 | and the opportunity to live at Downing Street opened up to me. I suppose a platform that held a |
| 2:11.8 | huge amount of privileges where I could learn slowly over time. I did not certainly didn't learn |
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