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I'm so excited to be interviewing Sandra Miller today. Sandra A. Miller is the author of

the memoir Trove, a woman's Search for Truth and Buried Treasure, which by the way, I

just loved.

She has contributed to more than 100 publications, including the Boston Globe magazine,

for which she is a regular correspondent. One of her essays was turned into a short film called

Wait, directed by Trudy Stuyler and starring Carrie Washington. She also wrote award-winning

scripts for 11 Central Ave, a radio comic strip that ran for three years in major public radio markets.

She has appeared on the Today Show and other media outlets. She currently teaches English at the University of Massachusetts and lives outside Boston with her husband and two children.

Welcome, Sandra. Thanks for coming on moms. Don't have time to read books. Thanks for having me.

I loved your book trove. I really did, and I'm not just saying that. It was so good and hit to so many of the right notes in such a good way. You're such a good writer. And I literally, I posted this on Instagram, but I finished reading it. I had read most of it, but I had the last couple pages left, like maybe the last 30 pages that I finished on the elliptical, and I was

bawling on the machine. So, thank you. Thank you. It's not usually a good thing when I make

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