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🗓️ 25 December 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Can a Poetic Pause Help us Embrace the In-Between Moments of the Season?
On this special Christmas Day episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken each explore the nativity, the "space between" Christ's first coming and second coming, and how Christian faith holds grief and joy together in a world that often "does not mesh with Jesus." Featuring Madeleine L'Engle's poem "First Coming" and music from McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells (including "The Space Between"), this episode invites listeners to slow down, notice the small things, and find God's nearness in waiting and quiet wonder.
(00:03:02) Christian Response to a Troubled World
(00:04:22) Madeleine L'Engle's "First Coming"
(00:08:35) Sandra McCracken's Christmas Reflections
(00:12:14) What Is Blessing the Space Between?
(00:12:47) Songwriting and the Sacred Space Between
(00:15:10) From Christmas to New Year's: Blessing the In-Between Times
(00:17:12) Nativity, Slowness, and the Nearness of God
(00:20:01) Curtis Chang's Closing Reflections
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| 0:00.0 | Merry Christmas from the Good Faith podcast. Thanks for letting us be part of your holiday. |
| 0:08.6 | This Christmas Day, we've got a special episode with our friend, Sandra McCracken, a conversation about finding hope in the space between the joy, the longing, and everything this season holds. |
| 0:20.6 | And to celebrate Sandra's appearance, we're doing a giveaway. |
| 0:24.1 | You can win a vinyl record copy of her first Christmas record |
| 0:27.5 | and one of our brand new Good Faith camping mugs. |
| 0:30.7 | The contest is open through January 12th to enter, use the link in the show notes. |
| 0:35.3 | From all of us at good faith, Merry Christmas. |
| 0:42.2 | When I think of the nativity scene and the invitation to pay attention to the small things, |
| 0:49.9 | to be still in the middle of a scene that is no doubt messy and it's dark and it's probably cold. |
| 0:58.1 | And you've got this like manger scene where this baby is born in a way that was not at all |
| 1:02.2 | what we expected for the royalty and kingship of God coming to be with us in this way. |
| 1:09.0 | And like no one could have scripted this. |
| 1:11.9 | And, I mean, other than the prophets and they didn't know what they were doing. |
| 1:50.0 | Yeah. I heard the bells on Christmas Day, their old familiar carous play and wild and sweet the words repeat of peace on earth good will to men I thought how as the day had come, the belfries of all Christendom had rode along the unbroken song of peace on earth goodwill to men. |
| 2:19.8 | Welcome to the Good Faith podcast We're friends who follow Jesus |
| 2:22.4 | Help each other make sense of the world. |
| 2:25.7 | I'm your host, Curtis Chang. |
| 2:28.0 | This podcast is produced by a nonpartisan 501c3 organization. |
| 2:39.1 | Listeners, I want to wish you a Merry Christmas. You can consider this segment like my Christmas card to you, except it doesn't feature carefully curated |
| 2:44.8 | pictures of our family and all the attractive places in the world that we've visited this |
| 2:50.0 | past year on vacation. |
| 2:51.6 | Now, I've gotten nothing against those kinds of cards. |
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