Sandra Lison Part 2 of 2
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🗓️ 23 March 2026
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Episode 182 Sandra Lison Part 2 of 2
This is part 2; the conclusion of the Sandra Lison case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first.
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, skipping ahead, seven years. |
| 0:02.3 | The Wisconsin Department of Justice established a cold crimes unit in January of 1998. |
| 0:08.0 | The Attorney General's office staffed it with DCI agents paired with FBI agents, |
| 0:12.2 | working with local agencies on old unresolved cases. |
| 0:15.5 | And one of the first cases they closed was that of Sandra License, |
| 0:18.5 | thanks to a phone call from a prison in Oshkosh. |
| 0:21.5 | All of this from a criminal complaint filed in Brown County in 1999. |
| 0:26.6 | In 1998, a man named David Bince was in prison for the sexual assault of a young girl. |
| 0:31.9 | Two years earlier, he had pled no contest to a charge of sexual assault of a child under the |
| 0:35.7 | age of 16 and was sentenced to 10 |
| 0:37.6 | years. On October 4, 1998, a detective Lind at the Green Bay Police Department received a call |
| 0:44.2 | from an officer at the Oshkosh Correctional Institution where David Vince was housed. He said that |
| 0:49.8 | an inmate claimed to have some information on the Sandra Licin homicide. The inmate was named Gary Swendby. |
| 0:56.6 | Green Bay detectives Robert Haglund and Joe Kaminsky interviewed Gary on April 13, 1998. Gary had shared |
| 1:03.9 | a sale at Oshkosh with David Bince for about a month. Gary said that in his sleep, David started |
| 1:09.2 | screaming and appeared to wake up. While awake, he |
| 1:11.9 | continued to scream, Bob, Bob, kill her. Make sure she's dead. Make sure she's dead so she can't tell. |
| 1:16.9 | The next morning, Gary said to David, dude, you have some really bad dreams. David responded |
| 1:21.5 | that he'd been having them ever since the killing. Gary said what killing? And David said |
| 1:25.8 | ever since the bitch ripped me off. He then mentioned some |
| 1:29.0 | beer that she had sold them, but he didn't specify who she or them was. He said they were going to |
| 1:34.9 | go back and get the money she owed them, and they decided to rob her. He said they got $2,000 off of her. |
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