You're listening to an upstream sneak peek with writer and activist Richard Seymour. So essentially I think there is a connection between Sanders and Corbin.

I think that Sanders is slightly more popular than Corbin, but I think they both come

from a similar political moment and how describe that is that for some news now, decades actually, the structures of representative democracy

have been entering into a decline and increasingly a crisis on all fronts, party membership,

voting, party identification.

So what we're seeing is people are increasingly

detached from the structures of representative democracy.

The mirror of democracy is cracked and warped,

and people no longer recognize their reflection in it.

And that also extends to the media.

The media is, if you like, the representation of representation.

It tells us how the political world reflects us, but people no longer

feel reflected in the media either. So there's this general cynicism towards the state and

towards the media and towards the old political elites.

And that creates a space in which new forces can come to the fore.

And these new forces, whether it's Podemos in Spain,

Syriza in Greece, Corbyn in Britain,

Sanders in the USA, these forces are often very, very

weak in the north themselves.

They are not vibrantly strong they just happen to been able to exploit

a weakness on the part of the old governing elites so I think that's the connection between the two and obviously that means that they have some other things in common as well most saliently of which they are despised by the establishment forces in their own parties.

Corwin by the Labour Right and Bernie Sanders by the Democratic Leadership Council. As to the coming election, I personally

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