This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, November 22nd, 2016. I'm Caleb Brown.

States are under no obligation to assist federal law enforcement enforcing federal laws.

Many cities are playing up the fact that they will not be assisting the feds in enforcing federal immigration law.

Alex Narasta, immigration analyst at the Cato Institute,

discusses the distinction between so-called sanctuary

cities and secure communities ahead of the Trump presidency.

Let's draw a quick distinction here between a sanctuary city and a secure community.

What is the difference?

So a sanctuary city is a local jurisdiction

that limits its police interaction deport, how they can detain people, etc.

and hand them over to ICE.

Secure Communities, however, is sort of the opposite end of that. over to

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secure communities however is sort of the opposite end of that. It requires local police to release all illegal immigrants or people who

they fed's think are illegal immigrants into their custody.

All right, so where do we typically find one sit or the other?

So most cities in the United States are most of the big ones are sanctuary cities right now. They do not cooperate with federal immigration

enforcement except in certain categories, for instance people convicted of serious felonies, but generally they just don't cooperate with ICE.

And this has a long tradition in the United States going back to 1979 actually Los Angeles Special Order 40 of the

LAPD said they would not cooperate with the federal government or ask about immigration

status of anybody that they come in contact with.

All right, so there are a lot of sort of complicating things here with respect to how

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