"Sanctions On Israel Are The Only Hope": Israel's Most Distinguished Journalist Gideon Levy
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🗓️ 30 December 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Gideon Levy is a man of immense moral courage and leadership: the award-winning Ha'aretz columnist has spoken out against the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people, and has become an increasingly lone voice.
Here he tells me how Israeli society has degenerated to a terrifying degree, why he has so little hope, the forgotten horrors of the West Bank - and why the only chance for a just peace will come from sanctions against Israel.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello. I'm particularly delighted today to be joined by the brilliant Gilling Levy, who is a, I would say an extremely courageous, morally courageous journalist, someone I think a lot of us have been looking to an Israeli writer for |
| 0:14.3 | Hararets and I think a lot of us be looking through as a as a kind of |
| 0:19.2 | of moral leadership if you don't remember saying Gideon all the way through this |
| 0:22.3 | moral clarity if you don't remember saying Gideon all the way through this. |
| 0:23.2 | Moral clarity, those two words, I think, |
| 0:27.1 | have been, for me, the most important, |
| 0:30.5 | the most important two words since this horror began and I think more clarity |
| 0:34.0 | runs through your work like a stick of rock so it's great to be able to discuss this |
| 0:39.2 | with you. |
| 0:40.2 | Getting versatile, can I just ask you something just in terms of your own position just so I guess we're kind of clear about where you stand at the moment because I've been interviewing lots of Israeli peace activists for example who I'm always in all of. But if you look at the polling, |
| 0:54.9 | I mean just to show how courageous I think your position is, |
| 0:57.5 | the polling shows that at the moment |
| 0:59.4 | the vast majority of people in Israel |
| 1:00.6 | think there's too much too little fire power being expended in Gaza. |
| 1:05.3 | A recent poll suggested most support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. |
| 1:12.1 | Now obviously Israel was traumatized by the horrors of Gaza. Now obviously is what I was traumatized by the horrors of 7th of October, but these are deeply |
| 1:17.1 | depressing figures and I'm just wondering partly just the atmosphere at the moment and just how |
| 1:22.2 | kind of marginalised that lead someone with your kind of more clarity in the moment. |
| 1:27.6 | It's an Israel that I don't I didn't I never met such an Israel and I met all kinds of sides of Israel in my |
| 1:38.1 | long career but this is a new Israel It's first of all the first war that I can recall that has no |
| 1:48.3 | critics, no resistance, no moral doubt. no more doubts or any other questions. And if they are, it's always as you rightly |
| 1:59.9 | mentioned, why are we so soft? Why don't we let it go? A famous commentator in a mainstream channel |
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